3-Corner Formations-Best Corner is assigned to NB, WR to Flk

[regenerator]

If you have the computer set your depth charts, it always assigns your best corner to the Nickel Back position, which as we all know is usually reserved for a 2nd stringer (slot-specialist cover guys aside), whereas your "stud" corner is on the outside covering the dangerous burners and what not. Can we please have this corrected? Hopefully I stated my argument clearly.

Similarly, why is the best receiver assigned to the "FL" position, which if I'm not mistaken is the slot position. Unless I'm wrong about that, he should be assigned to one of the outside WRs on the depth chart for formations like Spread

[francua4]

I could be wrong but I think its based on the order of the Depth Chart. Nickel Formation could be in order like this: Nickel CB= slot 1, LCB = slot 2, and RCB = slot 3. So if you're best corner is 1st on the list in the DC then he's more then likely going to end up covering the FL in 3 WR sets.

On the flip side WR's are the same way, where for the WR position the FL is slot 1, LWR slot 2, and RWR is slot 3 so the game will always place the best WR in order of Depth Chart slot.

[brooks_piggott]

Yea, the AI puts them in order of the slots. Now that we have more complicated formations than we had in the past we can look at optimizing which slot gets priority, but it will differ by formation.

[regenerator]

Ah ok this makes sense; so in essence, the game doesn't really have the concept of "slot" receivers and corners yet. thanks guys

[brooks_piggott]

Yea, in the case above I think we have the FL position defined before the other WR positions... so the AI will tend to follow the order of the depth chart from the top down and put your WR1 in the FL depth chart slot.

We'd need to go back in and set the FL label to the third WR depth chart slot, and then adjust all of the plays and formation to make sure that FL is actually lining up in the slot.

Advanced users will watch the plays and figure out where we have them mixed up and will put the receivers they want in the correct depth chart slot regardless of the label (FL/TE/WR).

We'll be putting a bigger emphasis on plays, slots, labels, etc. in the next version to help clear up some of these inconsistencies.

[regenerator]

Does this mean in dime that my two best corners should be in NB1 and NB2?

[brooks_piggott]

I thought the NB cover the slots/inside receivers and CB still cover the outside receivers. So if teams are putting WR1 on the outside I would probably start my best corner at CB. If the team you're playing is putting their top guys in slots/TE then it may make sense to start a good corner at NB. Depends on your game plan and which plays you're calling versus what they're calling.

[regenerator]

Oh wow now I'm totally confused -
I thought from this post in particular that you said "FL" should be where you place your best wide receiver (opposing my thinking that "FL" would be WR3, a slot). Therefore, NB, which covers the "FL", should be the best CB on the team.

You said in an earlier post in this thread - "We'd need to go back in and set the FL label to the third WR depth chart slot, and then adjust all of the plays and formation to make sure that FL is actually lining up in the slot...We'll be putting a bigger emphasis on plays, slots, labels, etc. in the next version to help clear up some of these inconsistencies." So, this means this change has been done? Perhaps 2.0.11 fixed this? The timing matches up.

Basically what you're saying is we need to change the depth charts based on your next opponent, where they actually put their receivers and counter appropriately. You mention assigning per play, but I don't know how you would do that unless you can quickly change depth charts in-game. Can you do this?

So based on what you just said, sounds like I was right when I started this post that FL is a slot-receiver, yes?

Finally, dime coverage - NB1 assigned to TE, NB2 to FL?

[AKH]

FL is the slot wr.

in Nickel and 335 the NB lines up over the FL.

in dime the NB2 may do different things dependning on the play - he lines up between LWR and TE, and will usually cover TE, but depending on plays and routes etc he may cover RB or LWR as well.

[regenerator]

Ok thanks AKH, this is all what I thought when I first posted this thread, but then some comments from Brooks confused me - now I'm back to what I thought it was and your posted is great confirmation of my previous understanding. Thanks!