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Yards per catch for receivers

PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 6:09 pm
by hcaeb2000
Some of the stats are starting to look a little better, but one stands out as being way too high.

yards per catch for receivers.

In the 2000's IRL, there have been roughly 10 qualifying receivers who have averaged more than 20 yards a catch. In my league this season alone there are 34.

There are five qualifying QB's right now averaging over 20 yards per pass completion.

This could be adding to the high offensive outputs.

Thanks,

Re: Yards per catch for receivers

PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 6:22 pm
by brooks_piggott
You can go into the advanced settings and dial back the receiving/passing yards slider a bit and see if that takes care of it.

Re: Yards per catch for receivers

PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:53 pm
by hcaeb2000
Thanks, I will check it out. I didn't even know there were options for that...

Re: Yards per catch for receivers

PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 9:59 pm
by hcaeb2000
Are you talking about the passing yards modifier?

If so, that just breaks the game. Up or down...it made QB's pass for 700 yards and teams were scoring 70 points

That happened whether I moved it negative or positive.

Is there some other setting?

Thanks,

Re: Yards per catch for receivers

PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 9:04 am
by brooks_piggott
Yea, I took it down to -10 and it brought overall passing down too much.. it did get receiver YPC down as well, but not enough to where you're looking for. We'll have to look at some other options such as tuning, and other play design (#1 WR may not be running enough shallow or sideline routes)

Re: Yards per catch for receivers

PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:09 am
by NotMikeZimmer
Is part of the problem is that the YPC is determined after WR catches and runs with the ball (the game doesn't have a separate YAC stat)?

Re: Yards per catch for receivers

PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:06 pm
by NotMikeZimmer
to clarify I mean that there seems to be a lot of YAC in this game, which could distort the numbers.

Re: Yards per catch for receivers

PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:25 pm
by brooks_piggott
Could be... YPC is yards per completion, so it factors in total gain on the play regardless of YAC.

Re: Yards per catch for receivers

PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:31 pm
by NotMikeZimmer
I'm guessing if you tracked the YAC, it would be the issue. there are a pretty high percentage of breakout big plays after the catch, especially from high speed high agility players.

Re: Yards per catch for receivers

PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:57 pm
by hcaeb2000
Brooks,

I agree, I don't think it's a case of adjusting league wide numbers because other receivers seem to be in line with what you would expect and a reversal of that would probably see an opposite effect, with far too many receivers averaging under 10 YPC.

I am not sure where the issue might be, I combed over the receivers in my league to see if there was any traits or combination of skills or something that might be causing the issue.

The YAC mentioned by NotMikeZimmer is interesting, and I agree in some cases there are too many yards after catch, but I think that is the engine at work because as we have discussed before there are too few long passes, so the game seems to be making up for that by making YAC much higher than you would expect.

Are there certain route completion types that are just churning out more YAC and receivers in certain depth chart places are more likely to catch that type of pass and tack on heavy YAC?

I will say one thing that did stick out a bit, was that the top receivers by catches, do not seem to be the ones with the issues. It seems to be the guys that are getting fewer catches than say the number one, but enough to make you notice the out of whack YPC numbers. Say the guys catching 30 to 60 balls a season. But that is just quick observation, no concrete data to back that up right now.

Thanks for looking at it...