Tackle wins Heisman

Tackle wins Heisman

Postby feedthebeast24 » Thu Sep 01, 2022 10:29 pm

A tackle in my save just won the Heisman with 140 pancakes. Didn't know if this was a glitch or just one of those rare occasions that's in the game?
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Re: Tackle wins Heisman

Postby Sharkn20 » Fri Sep 02, 2022 5:36 am

feedthebeast24 wrote:A tackle in my save just won the Heisman with 140 pancakes. Didn't know if this was a glitch or just one of those rare occasions that's in the game?


That's definitely worth a Heisman, have you got a picture of his attributes?
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Re: Tackle wins Heisman

Postby bblom23 » Fri Sep 02, 2022 2:31 pm

Just had the same exact thing happen right after I read this. A Junior tackle from WV had 138 pancakes and won the Heisman.
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Re: Tackle wins Heisman

Postby bblom23 » Fri Sep 02, 2022 3:01 pm

That's definitely worth a Heisman, have you got a picture of his attributes?[/quote]

I'm not the one you asked, but I will share with you the tackle that won the Heisman in my save.

Adding the image wouldnt work, but here is his information.

Prospect rank was #1111 Nationally, 90th in his position, and 116th in his state. He was already there when I created the save, so idk much stock to put into those numbers.

Overall - 79
Strength - 82
Agility - 47
Intelligence - 71
Pass blocking - 70
Run blocking - 87
Endurance - 56

He ended with 138 pancakes, 1 sack allowed, and 4 missed blocks.
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Re: Tackle wins Heisman

Postby brooks_piggott » Fri Sep 02, 2022 8:05 pm

It's rare, but 140 pancakes gives them about the same "heisman" points as the top skill position players in the game. I can try turning it down, but I don't want to nerf it so much that it can't ever happen. I'll run some long term sims and see if it's happening more than I'd like and adjust from there.
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Re: Tackle wins Heisman

Postby brooks_piggott » Fri Sep 02, 2022 8:11 pm

The other option is to further restrict heisman to certain positions and bring in all positions for Offensive/Defensive player of the year
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Re: Tackle wins Heisman

Postby slybelle1 » Fri Sep 02, 2022 8:22 pm

Brooks_Piggott wrote:The other option is to further restrict heisman to certain positions and bring in all positions for Offensive/Defensive player of the year


Although not a big fan of artificial limits since anything can happen...in this case history suggests maybe there out to be tighter restrictions based on positions....although I would hate to see it never happen if the player truly does something special compared to the other players in that season.

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Re: Tackle wins Heisman

Postby brooks_piggott » Fri Sep 02, 2022 9:44 pm

I just simmed a 30 year sim and didn't see any Tackles, so I'm going to say it's rare enough for me. In order to win they need to get super high pancakes (130+) and have very few negative plays, plus a lot of team wins or championships, plus having a down year for other QB/RB/WR. So it's possible, but should be rare.
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Re: Tackle wins Heisman

Postby slybelle1 » Sat Sep 03, 2022 10:35 am

Brooks_Piggott wrote:I just simmed a 30 year sim and didn't see any Tackles, so I'm going to say it's rare enough for me. In order to win they need to get super high pancakes (130+) and have very few negative plays, plus a lot of team wins or championships, plus having a down year for other QB/RB/WR. So it's possible, but should be rare.


I did a sim of 87 years, basically to match the number of years the Heisman Trophy has been given out. I did see tackles win a number of times, but more what I saw is a large difference between RBs and QBs. Only 6 QBs won it over 87 years. May want to consider some tweaking in that area and still might be some room for lowering chances of tackles a bit.....just curious within the game, is it possible for defense to win it? Only happened (3) times in real life but didn't see any at all. I would think the defense would have an equal chance as positions like tackles.

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Re: Tackle wins Heisman

Postby brooks_piggott » Sat Sep 03, 2022 11:17 am

Yea, I think I can tweak it a bit... I think bumping KRTD and PRTD will help the WR and CB get into the mix more as well, especially if they have historic seasons doing it.
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