Shooting Ratings & Percentages

Re: Shooting Ratings & Percentages

Postby C-Bailey24 » Sat Mar 17, 2018 2:40 pm

PointGuard wrote:True, lots of 3's by perimeter players in DDSCB. But take a look at real life NCAA team stats though, and you'll see a lot of their perimeter players taking over 50% of their FGA's from beyond the arc.


But your not gonna see the statistical disconnect in real life (since you brought it up) that you see in DDSCB. By that I mean, guys averaging 20 plus points a game yet shooting an overall sub 42%. For every one of those that may exist in real life there are 5 of those in DDSCB. Again, easily verified. League Leaders>Sort by PG, SG, and SF ONLY. Leave PFs and C’s off. You would think, for the most part, the better scorers per team would be the more efficient especially if their top ranked recruits but this is not the case.
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Re: Shooting Ratings & Percentages

Postby PointGuard » Sat Mar 17, 2018 3:59 pm

OK, did what you said..checked 20+ ppg PG, SG, and SF scorers in my DDSCB association. There were 16 players doing that.

What I found was that 3P% ranged from 30% to 46% with 7 of the 16 hit over 40%.

Checked top 16 perimeter (G & F) scorers in real NCAA this season and found that 3P% ranged from 29% to 43% and 5 of the 16 hit over 40%

So that was reasonably similar.

BUT...in my DDSCB association, the 16 top scorers DID shoot a LOT more 3's than the top 16 in Real NCAA. In DDSCB, 12 of the 16 fired up more than 50% of their shots as 3's whereas in Real NCAA just 6 of the 16 fired up over 50% of their shots as 3's. In my DDSCB asssociation the range for the top 16 scorers for 3PA/FGA was 44% to 77% with 6 over 70% and 6 between 60% and 70%. In Real NCAA only 1 of the 16 top scorers fired up 60% of his shots as 3's and 13 of the 16 were were in the 40% to 55% range.

So while 3P success % was pretty similar between DDSCB and Real Life, you're right that DDSCB (top perimeter scorers at least) do shoot much more from beyond the arc.

Not sure if it would be an easy matter for Gary to adjust that without messing up what overall is presently good stats comparisons between DDSCB and Real Life, but would be nice if he could.
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Re: Shooting Ratings & Percentages

Postby Double Dribble » Sat Mar 17, 2018 5:09 pm

i see it too. three point rate is a bit high by the cpu.
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Re: Shooting Ratings & Percentages

Postby PointGuard » Sat Mar 17, 2018 5:49 pm

Double Dribble wrote:i see it too. three point rate is a bit high by the cpu.

Yeah, but not across the board for teams since the average number of 3PA/game for teams is right on. But it looks like the principle perimeter shooters are firing it up a bit too much (and instead maybe should be driving or shooting more 2 point jumpers), whereas the rest of the team must need to try a few more 3's so that the avg number of 3PA remains about the same for the entire team. It's a difficult balancing act.
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Re: Shooting Ratings & Percentages

Postby C-Bailey24 » Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:03 pm

PointGuard wrote:OK, did what you said..checked 20+ ppg PG, SG, and SF scorers in my DDSCB association. There were 16 players doing that.

What I found was that 3P% ranged from 30% to 46% with 7 of the 16 hit over 40%.

Checked top 16 perimeter (G & F) scorers in real NCAA this season and found that 3P% ranged from 29% to 43% and 5 of the 16 hit over 40%

So that was reasonably similar.

BUT...in my DDSCB association, the 16 top scorers DID shoot a LOT more 3's than the top 16 in Real NCAA. In DDSCB, 12 of the 16 fired up more than 50% of their shots as 3's whereas in Real NCAA just 6 of the 16 fired up over 50% of their shots as 3's. In my DDSCB asssociation the range for the top 16 scorers for 3PA/FGA was 44% to 77% with 6 over 70% and 6 between 60% and 70%. In Real NCAA only 1 of the 16 top scorers fired up 60% of his shots as 3's and 13 of the 16 were were in the 40% to 55% range.

So while 3P success % was pretty similar between DDSCB and Real Life, you're right that DDSCB (top perimeter scorers at least) do shoot much more from beyond the arc.

Not sure if it would be an easy matter for Gary to adjust that without messing up what overall is presently good stats comparisons between DDSCB and Real Life, but would be nice if he could.


Right. It's a tricky balance and i'm no programmer but i just want the game to reflect the real game as much as possible especially more dribble drive oriented players, etc.
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Re: Shooting Ratings & Percentages

Postby Double Dribble » Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:14 pm

This just happened in a game i coached. Take a look at Coursey on ucla. His teammates must hate him lol

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Re: Shooting Ratings & Percentages

Postby C-Bailey24 » Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:23 pm

Double Dribble wrote:This just happened in a game i coached. Take a look at Coursey on ucla. His teammates must hate him lol

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Can you click Coursey's player card? I'd be willing to bet he's a Top 20 recruit. They shoot unconsciously lol
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Re: Shooting Ratings & Percentages

Postby Double Dribble » Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:37 pm

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You were right...third ranked recruit and he is a chucker, thats for sure
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Re: Shooting Ratings & Percentages

Postby C-Bailey24 » Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:50 pm

Jeezuz 28/111...there needs to be a "stop shooting from the top of the key" option in the Play Style phone calls LOL
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Re: Shooting Ratings & Percentages

Postby Gary Gorski » Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:07 am

If you have that league still I would love to see the files and go through possessions for UCLA and see what the logic is doing with him. It might be helpful in tweaking things - instructions on sending the game files are under the help menu in the game
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