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[Warriors11]

so some historical perspective from an old guy that has played these types of games for over 20 years.

FOF and OOTP are the two most mature and relevant.

OOTP handles by essentially letting you change as much or as little as you want. Of the many things that make OOTP king is you can easily customize almost everything extremely easily. this should be the target.

FOF is way harder to customize but does have the starting option of basically "how much variance do you want" me personally I want NONE. I want the players to reflect the real world as much as possible, after I have adjusted them to represent the truth in my opinion. I am a real world football coach and have been for over 30 years, so I do have an idea. but that isnt even the point - games at their best allow the player to play their way.

[bsp8174]

Love OOTP that is the Gold standard when it comes to sim sports. What is FOF?

[drummerJ99]

Love OOTP that is the Gold standard when it comes to sim sports. What is FOF?

I believe it's Front Office Football. It's the rabbit hole that eventually led me here. Was tempted by FOF but it just looked so dated that I couldn't.

[Templer]

... FOF but it just looked so dated that I couldn't.

FOF looks dated but under the hood is still very deep and sophisticated.
However, it looks like the FOF franchise has come to an end with version 8.
Draft Day Sports: Pro Football doesn't have the depth of FOF yet, but is catching up from version to version.
As a result, FOF has ended, Draft Day Sports: Pro Football will continue to be improved, expanded and deepened from version to version.
It is not outrageous to say: Draft Day Sports: Pro football is the future.
We hope there are more 'happy days' to come.

[drummerJ99]

... FOF but it just looked so dated that I couldn't.

FOF looks dated but under the hood is still very deep and sophisticated.
However, it looks like the FOF franchise has come to an end with version 8.
Draft Day Sports: Pro Football doesn't have the depth of FOF yet, but is catching up from version to version.
As a result, FOF has ended, Draft Day Sports: Pro Football will continue to be improved, expanded and deepened from version to version.
It is not outrageous to say: Draft Day Sports: Pro football is the future.
We hope there are more 'happy days' to come.

Didn't OOTP buy FOF? Thought I heard that years ago, guess nothing ever came of it.

[slaphappy]

OOTP moved on... deal is toast. I have spent time hating that choice! Dumb! Back to this interesting game. I understand the randomized start...and even like it. Can I turn it off? Just spent hours in sandbox mode editing pictures. Converted to career mode only to findout my favorite players suck. Very deflating.

[brooks_piggott]

OOTP moved on... deal is toast. I have spent time hating that choice! Dumb! Back to this interesting game. I understand the randomized start...and even like it. Can I turn it off? Just spent hours in sandbox mode editing pictures. Converted to career mode only to findout my favorite players suck. Very deflating.

You can either check the mod forum, or create your sandbox league, update any players that you want changed, make trades, etc. Then export players, and create a new sandbox league using that export file as the custom player source. That way the ratings you set "stick".

[Warriors11]

OOTP moved on... deal is toast. I have spent time hating that choice! Dumb! Back to this interesting game. I understand the randomized start...and even like it. Can I turn it off? Just spent hours in sandbox mode editing pictures. Converted to career mode only to findout my favorite players suck. Very deflating.

You can either check the mod forum, or create your sandbox league, update any players that you want changed, make trades, etc. Then export players, and create a new sandbox league using that export file as the custom player source. That way the ratings you set "stick".

this is a good workaround.

I believe people would like to have it easier, but I will never complain about a way.

we use to have to hack\edit the code from Tom Landry football just to get names in for key players back in 1993. Dont knock it - half of my IT education came from trying to hack sports games in the 80s and 90s

[Warriors11]

Love OOTP that is the Gold standard when it comes to sim sports. What is FOF?

FOF is front office football which along with OOTP came out in the late 90s – FOF did join OOTP studios briefly, but that deal fell apart. I still enjoy and play FOF from time to time. But it is still stuck in the 90s with very little likelihood of ever becoming modern. OOTP on the other hand has progressed in my opinion better than any other game and is the gold standard by a long shot for this genre.

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