Initial Concerns with Outside Shooting Gameplay

Initial Concerns with Outside Shooting Gameplay

Postby KeVbK » Fri Feb 28, 2025 12:48 am

The biggest thing that stood out to me after simming through a couple of seasons in CB25 was how much stronger 3pt shooting was in the game compared to prior versions. The numbers i was seeing from teams (shooting > 50% from 3) and some players (guys shooting > 60%) makes me think it is pretty overtuned right now. So, i spent some time pulling numbers from a CB25 save, our latest CBGM season in CB24, and the IRL CBB season to illustrate the point.

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An average team in my latest season on CB25 was shooting > 40% from 3. There are currently 3 team in IRL CBB shooting that well. Overall attempts are in-line with our CB24 save, which is still trailing IRL, but the conversion rate is pretty far above reality.

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Anecdotally, I had felt like the issue with 3pt shooting in earlier versions of the game was that the game would generate alot of low rated 3pt shooters with huge 3pt tendencies who would just jack up shoots. A human can deal with that a bit on their own team with trying to change their tendencies, but across the total universe it made outside shooting less efficient compared to IRL. You can see that in the numbers above, with the majority of the top 500 3pt shot attempters actually shooting sub 33% on those shots in our latest CBGM season in CB24. CB25 has swung too far in the other direction, though. A ton of guys shooting >45%, >50%, there were a couple of guys shooting > 60% on 5 attempts per game.
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Re: Initial Concerns with Outside Shooting Gameplay

Postby PointGuard » Fri Feb 28, 2025 3:37 am

Good analysis and a valid concern. Well done!

During the beta-testing period I did a CB25 vs Real Life Div. 1 stats comparison. In my comparison on 3pt shooting was very close to yours. My FT shooting comparison was a bit different than yours, but relatively close. In my comparison, the avg ppg was 77.0 which was a bit lower than yours, but still slightly above real life.

I didn't do a "top 500 3p attempters" analysis, so that is very illuminating.

FYI: Here's the comparison of CB25 vs Real Life that I did:

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Re: Initial Concerns with Outside Shooting Gameplay

Postby Gary Gorski » Mon Mar 03, 2025 8:34 pm

This will receive attention in the next build
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